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Old 11-02-2001, 06:37 PM
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And, oh yeah, face recognition technology, like the technology that is used in over the 22,000 closed circuit television cameras in London, works wonderful.
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Old 11-02-2001, 06:37 PM
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And, oh yeah, face recognition technology, like the technology that is used in over the 22,000 closed circuit television cameras in London, works wonderful.
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Old 11-03-2001, 05:38 PM
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I'm not trying to be a dork here, but what about people like myself who don't have any fingerprints? Trying to use one biometric for all situations is doomed to fail.

If you want to use high-res cameras, that's OK, but from what I've seen of the facial biometrics, the error rates are way too high to be very useful.
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Old 11-03-2001, 05:38 PM
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I'm not trying to be a dork here, but what about people like myself who don't have any fingerprints? Trying to use one biometric for all situations is doomed to fail.

If you want to use high-res cameras, that's OK, but from what I've seen of the facial biometrics, the error rates are way too high to be very useful.
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Old 11-03-2001, 05:43 PM
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The reason for domestic air travel is convenience. If everyone needs an anal probe to fly, it stops being convenient and airport security is self-defeating.

What good do background checks do? Facial and/or fingerprint recognition? They only help you stop people you have a reasonable knowledge will commit a crime.

Oh, and all this repository of personal data just makes it that much easier for an abuse of power by whomever holds the information. We don't know of it happening, perhaps, but how many times has someone had a fingerprint of a "target" and found a way to reproduce that fingerprint and lay it down somewhere to implicate an innocent person? How many times will it happen in the future?

If you manage to take out the "advantage" of killing multiple people with one attack, by securing the cockpit and having an air marshall in the cabin, then you can minimize the "benefit" to someone to commit a crime in the air.

You may be happy to turn over your soul at the security checkpoint, but I'd rather keep mine, thanks. Scan my bags, x-ray me, but I'm a normal person -- let me through.
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Old 11-03-2001, 05:43 PM
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The reason for domestic air travel is convenience. If everyone needs an anal probe to fly, it stops being convenient and airport security is self-defeating.

What good do background checks do? Facial and/or fingerprint recognition? They only help you stop people you have a reasonable knowledge will commit a crime.

Oh, and all this repository of personal data just makes it that much easier for an abuse of power by whomever holds the information. We don't know of it happening, perhaps, but how many times has someone had a fingerprint of a "target" and found a way to reproduce that fingerprint and lay it down somewhere to implicate an innocent person? How many times will it happen in the future?

If you manage to take out the "advantage" of killing multiple people with one attack, by securing the cockpit and having an air marshall in the cabin, then you can minimize the "benefit" to someone to commit a crime in the air.

You may be happy to turn over your soul at the security checkpoint, but I'd rather keep mine, thanks. Scan my bags, x-ray me, but I'm a normal person -- let me through.
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Old 11-04-2001, 06:59 PM
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I'm not worried about hijackings at all anymore. No one will ever be able to successfully hijack a plane again. The 9/11 hijackers tried to pacify people by telling them everything will be alright. From now on, even if the hijackers really just want to land somewhere, all the passengers are going to go crazy and risk their lives in case they might be made a flying missile. I probably would too. Passengers even tackled that mentally handicapped guy who tried to run up to the cockpit.
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Old 11-04-2001, 06:59 PM
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I'm not worried about hijackings at all anymore. No one will ever be able to successfully hijack a plane again. The 9/11 hijackers tried to pacify people by telling them everything will be alright. From now on, even if the hijackers really just want to land somewhere, all the passengers are going to go crazy and risk their lives in case they might be made a flying missile. I probably would too. Passengers even tackled that mentally handicapped guy who tried to run up to the cockpit.
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