ACTUAL Truth about the Safety of AirTran (not aka ValuJet)

[haze]

1) AirTran is not ValuJet, just as they're not Eastern
2) All of their aircraft (717-200s & 737-700s) are new, one of the youngest fleets on Earth
3) AirTran maintenence consistently receives the govt's highest awards for safety
4) AirTran is very safe, never having a single crash or loss of life due to such

These are all facts which are not open to interpretation...

[NiGHTS]

Those are facts under the assumption that AirTran is not Valujet. The relationship between AirTran and Valujet is up for interpretation: Was Valujet, or Is Valujet.

[dbaker]

COMPANY DATA:
COMPANY CONFORMED NAME: AIRTRAN AIRLINES INC
CENTRAL INDEX KEY: 0000914277
STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION: AIR TRANSPORTATION, SCHEDULED [4512]
IRS NUMBER: 880290707

. . .

FORMER COMPANY:
FORMER CONFORMED NAME: VALUJET AIRLINES INC
DATE OF NAME CHANGE: 19940513

. . .

AirTran Airlines, Inc., a Nevada corporation formerly known as ValuJet
Airlines, Inc. ("ValuJet Airlines" or the "Issuer") , hereby offers, upon the . . .

. . . according to the SEC filings from Airtran/ValuJet.

[Delta7203]

Come on guys....can we please drop this!!!

AirTran IS NOT VaulJet! They have NEW planes, NEW people, NEW
everything! AirTran Airways of Orlando, Florida will never be ValuJet
Airlines of Atlanta, Georgia!!!

- John

[717Doc]

Well said, Thank you John!

[haze]

...dbaker is just making my point for me, so I'll let him. His own post states "former company", "former name", and that they were "formerly known as ValuJet." Ummm, I believe everyone is already well aware of that...

But that's what dbaker just can't bring himself to acknowledge, the difference in "current" and "former." As exemplified by his heading "(aka ValuJet)". AirTran is not "aka" ValuJet, they were "fka" ValuJet...

And here's the part where dbaker attempts to deceive: he'd like for everyone to think it was simply a name change instead of the "merger" that it actually was. AirTran was actually a seperate airline altogether and was based in Orlando while ValuJet was based in Atlanta. Again, facts not open to interpretation. dbaker's general response has been to downplay AirTran's size and significance prior to the merger, but that just doesn't fly.

Again, despite the effort to blur the information that I've presented because they just don't fit dbaker's agenda, the four points that I make at the top of this thread are facts not open to interpretation. Do yourselves a favor: read them again and don't forget them

[haze]

Originally Posted by dbaker

DATE OF NAME CHANGE: 19940513

May 13th 1994 is two years before VJ592 and three years before the subsequent merger with AirTran. Although you probably list it out of context to imply otherwise, "19940513" is not the date ValuJet merged with AirTran under their name. This is simply the date of a technical name tweak within ValuJet. The merger and the adoptation of AirTran's name wasn't until late 1997. Always glad to set the record straight

[NiGHTS]

I think the AirTran merger is the only time i've heard of a larger company taking the name of the smaller company in the merger.

[717driver]

AirTran was the smaller company. Also nearly bankrupt. At the time of the shutdown Valujet had 250 million in the bank, it is what allowed them to survive.