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Old 07-29-2003, 03:31 PM   #21
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parts do fail

http://www.skygod.com/quotes/safety.html
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If you are looking for perfect safety, you will do well to sit on a fence and watch the birds......
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Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live in the real world.

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[Airplanes are] near perfect, all they lack is the ability to forgive.

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It would be nice to believe that parts never fail, but it would also be ignorent. Older planes parts still fail, but as I said time and time again, there are backup systems for backup systems...it takes multiple malfunctions, in the cases of "AirTrans" few incidents all aircraft made it back to the ground with the passengers safety first. We now only have (4) Dc-9's left so your running out of time to bash the airline about old planes that break down all the time and ar unsafe........according to you. Once we get all 717's and 737's who will you go after next???????? hey baker when are you going to correct you little warning page with pictures of a valujet incident but all labeled as different incidents...do you just make them up as you go?
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Old 07-31-2003, 10:03 PM   #22
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(I am in no way on either side. I've decided to stay neutral, just a simple question that I was asking myself)

dbaker- When do you consider AirTran no longer part of ValuJet?
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Old 10-28-2004, 04:52 PM   #23
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who is this moron? He sounds like my little sister when I was in grade school!!! He apparently wants everyone to think he knows everything about Airtran....when he's only been with the company a couple of years!!!
I'm sure he has'nt been out of A&P school too long, as he can't even spell the word "Hangar" right......He's one of those who knows a whole lot about NOTHING! Jetmech717 aint s---!
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Old 10-28-2004, 05:23 PM   #24
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Ummmmm, Look Here

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who is this moron? He sounds like my little sister when I was in grade school!!!

I'm sure he has'nt been out of A&P school too long, as he can't even spell the word "Hangar" right......He's one of those who knows a whole lot about NOTHING! Jetmech717 aint s---!
Speaking of morons

Sounds like your little sister? Grade school? How about laying off the redundant exclamation points and playground-isms ("Jetmech717 aint s---!") and then come back and talk to me about grade school

And since you're the spelling police, you do realize you misspelled hasn't as well as ain't don't you? While we're nitpicking spelling, here's a grammer lesson for you: sentences should start with a capital letter

Welcome to the fray! But you've got to do better than that, really

Yeah, I like emoticons, so what?! The four I used are exactly half the number of exclamation points you used...(humor folks, this is funny stuff)
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Old 10-29-2004, 07:37 AM   #25
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who is this moron? He sounds like my little sister when I was in grade school!!! He apparently wants everyone to think he knows everything about Airtran....when he's only been with the company a couple of years!!!
I'm sure he has'nt been out of A&P school too long, as he can't even spell the word "Hangar" right......He's one of those who knows a whole lot about NOTHING! Jetmech717 aint s---!
Sounds like we have us a possible Delta Tech (or someone else we compete with). Welcome to the conversation.....even though its almost 1 1/2 years old!! I've been with the company 5 years now so I think I should know enough to teach you a thing or too. Heavy maint for 2 years before that and military aviation before that. So if you think you know more than me then BRING IT ON little fellow!! Now how about you stop hiding behind your name and let us know who our little trouble maker is?
I will run cirlces around you on the knowledge of our planes and the company. JUST BRING IT!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-29-2004, 01:25 PM   #26
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Mr. Aviation

This is for Mr. Aviation......er, jetmech....I've been working on airplanes before you were out of diapers!!! If you knew as much about aviation as you do pretending to, you would be more than just a "mech". Why are you not running the company? You know so much....you should have your picture on the tail, instead of the big "A", oh, sorry, you already have your picture all over the walls....maybe the stabilizer is next! Face reality, you aint all that!!!! A big 5 years huh? Is that like a record or something for you? And frankly, we don't care about your so called "military" career,,,BIG DEAL, a majority of us are ex-military and we don't go bragging about it......GET A LIFE.....
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Old 10-29-2004, 04:39 PM   #27
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Oh I get it now...This is internally!!
Well how about you approach me at work and quit airing out our business for all the world to see. Talk to you at work!!!!!!! While your at it why dont you tell me who you are...since you know me?
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Old 10-30-2004, 08:02 AM   #28
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Hey Jetmech,

You were right the first time,,,I am a Delta tech, sorry,,,,just venting,
I'm not used to seeing such crass personalities speaking out like you do about issues concerning your company....I guess if that's what turns you on....Glad to see someone is involved in their company as much as you are...Some of your statements seem feminine, almost like you are female, and if you are, congratulations, you certainly have the edge on most other females in the industry as far as aviation knowlege. I get a strong feeling femininity in your phraseology....(sorry about the spelling).
HORRAY FOR THE FEMALE AVIATION TECHNICIAN!!!!!
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Old 10-30-2004, 03:54 PM   #29
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lol...
No I'm not a female tech (although we do have some at work).
I do love the job and work you and I do, and I try to do it better everyday. I would help any technician out that would let me just to help get the job done (plus I hate seeing guys busting there butt while others sit around and wait/watch). I still think by your remarks that you know me, but I guess you wanna keep it a secret awhile.

P.S. - The female thing was funny
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Old 05-03-2005, 06:18 PM   #30
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Traveling, is it safe?

I have flown twice in my life to different place. Once was down to La Paz on the Baja, and the other was to Las Vegas. That was when I was in high school. Now I grew of fear of flying just out of the blue and I don't know why. Just whenever I think about it, I get nervous and my stomach ties in knots. I know that most people get a little nervous but my fear is like a fear of impending doom and I don't want to take drugs because I like to be in control. I don't know who else to talk to so I searched the internet and you guys look like you know what you are talking about. Can anyone help me? Thanks.
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Old 09-09-2005, 09:48 AM   #31
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The AirTran attitude lives on

You can't tell these people anything, JetMech 717 is a shining example of a guy that has a rebuttal and an explanation for everything. "Smoke in the cabin? Happens all the time..."

The same type that will be proffering such explanations when 100+ people die in an AirTran crash.

I refuse to fly with an inferior airline and when I spend my money, it will be with an airline that has a proven safety record, not one pieced together from the charred remains of the Valu-Jet death squad.

Just had to get that off my chest after seeing excuse after excuse after excuse made for the problems this airline has and will continue to have because of attitudes like his that don't change.
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Old 09-09-2005, 01:46 PM   #32
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...At least AirTran...the "inferior airline" doesn't duct tape their doors shut like Delta does...I guess we get permission to do that because of our "proven safety record"...?!

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Old 09-10-2005, 01:07 AM   #33
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Re: The AirTran attitude lives on

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I refuse to fly with an inferior airline and when I spend my money, it will be with an airline that has a proven safety record, not one pieced together from the charred remains of the Valu-Jet death squad.
Geez, it's coming up on 10 years since the Valujet crash, it's nice to know that it hasn't been forgotten. Too bad you can't direct your energies in a more sensible direction. It's pretty apparent that your decision is driven by emotion, not fact, DBaker.

Here's a suggestion, though- give it a rest. We operate nearly 600 flights a day . . . . every day, and very safely.

Do come and see us, though- when you grow up.
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Old 09-12-2005, 02:53 PM   #34
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Re: The uninformed attitudes live on

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I refuse to fly with an inferior airline and when I spend my money, it will be with an airline that has a proven safety record, not one pieced together from the charred remains of the Valu-Jet death squad.
Yeah, you go jump on a superior airline. Like Northwest, for example:
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Northwest Jet Makes Emergency Landing

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ST. LOUIS (AP) - A Northwest Airlines plane made an emergency landing Saturday because of mechanical trouble with an engine and the landing gear.

The DC-9 was traveling from Memphis, Tenn., to Minneapolis when it was diverted to St. Louis about 10:25 a.m. because of a report that an engine was out.

The pilot also reported trouble with the plane's nose gear, said Eric Patton, operations specialist for Lambert Airport.

The crew had to lower the nose gear manually, and passengers were instructed to bend down into a crouch position for landing.

The plane, which had 62 people on board, landed safely at about 11:15 a.m.

Some passengers said they wondered whether the problems were due to replacement workers who have been maintaining Northwest's planes since the airline's mechanics went on strike three weeks ago.

But Steve MacFarlane, assistant national director of the striking Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association, said it would be impossible at this point to say if a replacement mechanic were to blame.

"It would be very easy for me to tell you, 'Oh yeah, it was a mistake by one of these replacement workers.' But the fact is, it might have been, and then again it might not," he said.

Northwest spokeswoman Shawn Brumbaugh said it's too early to speculate on the causes of the problems.

"But to put it in perspective, we have over 1,400 flights per day, and every major commercial airline encounters occasional mechanical issues in the normal course of business," she said.
Last time I checked, "inferior" airlines as you call AirTran don't win all those coveted FAA Diamond Certificates for safety and maintence that AirTran has been awarded over the past decade. Nor do inferior airlines receive Entrepreneur Magazine's "Best Airline" accolades five times as AirTran has

It's all covered in detail here within this site. Looks like you have a little more reading to do
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Old 09-23-2005, 08:26 AM   #35
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Where's Dbaker to bash Jetblue for their landing gear problem?
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Old 10-05-2005, 02:27 PM   #36
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Hello again, everyone!

I'm flying Saturday from Denver to FLL and I was curious about the weather. Will the tropical storm that is east of Florida have many effects on flights into GA and FLA? What is done to minimize turbulence when dealing with weather like this?


Thanks for your time!
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Old 10-10-2005, 08:31 AM   #37
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Just so you guys know, that was jetBlue's SECOND plane that had a landing gear problem. The first accident was at LGA (I think) somtime earlier this year and was kept hush hush because NYC is jetBlues home and their PR department has great ties the NYC media - I guess they don't have the same relationship with the LA media though.

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Old 02-07-2006, 07:36 PM   #38
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So your position is that these "smoke in the cabin" emergency landings on AirTran are normal and to be expected, right?
I really like this guy! Dbaker, are you a "disgruntled employee" of AirTrash? I was just wondering?

Sorry guys, If I have to choose between a branwashed AirTrash employee and an unaffected, intelligent, free thinker like DBaker, well, there's no comparison! He's right on the money.

Safety isn't the only concern passengers need to be aware of at AirTrash. This is from someone who worked on the Atlanta Ramp from 2003 - 2005. A few things.

1. Marijuana use on Concourse D (the Delta Connection bag carts
parked on the end of Concourse D make good hiding places to
smoke weed)

2. Stealing. Thank God the FAA in its infinate insanity decided to
make it illegal to lock bags. It makes it much easier to pillage.
DVD's, money, clothing, personal items, you name it! Christams
on the ramp was quite literally Xmas for AirTrash ramp agents!

3. AirTrash gave all of us new backpacks, which were pretty nice.
What was even nicer is the fact that they weren't "see through"
backpacks, making the stealing process even easier.

Still think that AirTrash is a safe airline? History does and will repeat itself until AirTrash gets a grip on it's underpaid ramp workers. Selling weed and stealing are not good ways to suppliment one's income!
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Yeah, they don't steal or smoke dope at concourse A or B. Maybe you need to put the bong down dumbass.
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Old 02-13-2006, 08:20 PM   #40
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Yeah, they don't steal or smoke dope at concourse A or B. Maybe you need to put the bong down dumbass.
What makes you think AirTrash employees use bongs at work?

Did I say that I smoked weed at work? I'm just saying that it happens.

Do they steal from baggage on concourse A and B? If they do, then how do you know, and why don't you do anything to stop them?

You don't even know me, so why are you calling me a dumbass?
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