Fully reclinable seats for all passengers

SleeplessTraveler · 10-18-2002, 12:58 AM

After several sleepless nights aboard planes on intercontinental flights, which gave me some time to think about the lack of space in airplane seats, I came about an idea that could solve this problem. Over the next few years this idea took the form of a conceptual design for passenger cabins that can greatly improve the quality of traveling by plane, providing every passenger with a fully reclining seat and far more freedom to move about.

This solution, and the added space that it provides to every traveler, may also help in reducing the number of cases of air rage incidents and travel-related DVT, two conditions that have been in the spotlight recently and that are linked, among other factors, to lack of mobility and to the stress caused by it.

I'd like to know what my fellow travelers think of this concept, so if you would like to take a close look at it, I invite you to log on to our new website:

www.airbornehotel.com

Have a good flight... and a good night!

Carlos Martinez-Celis

BuffaloNY · 11-25-2002, 03:13 PM

Interesting concept, and one that appears to be very comfortable, but safety is compromised. It would simply be too chaotic to evacuate the plane given such a configuration.

183391 · 12-02-2002, 01:26 AM

Okay the airlines are having enough trouble attempting to sell tickets at dirt cheap prices. Take out half the seats and imagine what your fare would be.

SleeplessTraveler · 08-23-2003, 01:43 PM

183391:

We have several configurations for a specific widebody aircraft (I can't say which) that not only can match its normal seat count, they can increase it by as much as 15%.

dbaker · 08-25-2003, 03:12 PM

How are the overhead bins affected?

Nugget · 08-25-2003, 03:17 PM

I also wonder if the proposed seat design would be feasible for taller passengers. While a present-day airplane seat is uncomfortable for taller passengers, this system would appear to have no possibility for a taller passenger to fit, given the fact that it's entirely enclosed.

I'm also unconvinced that a bunk-style system would be workable in an emergency evacuation. The FAQ on the site acknowledges this concern, but fails to provide a meaningful response to that particular issue.

I'm also a bit off-put by the misleading wording used on the site where the tone and language are clearly designed to give the impression that this is a production system seeking airframe customers and not just some guy's crazy idea which I suspect it is.

SleeplessTraveler · 08-25-2003, 09:48 PM

dbaker:

There are no overhead bins in this design; individual baggage bins are set in front of each passenger. By the way, these bins can offer twice as much space per passenger as compared with conventional overhead bins.

Nugget:

The ABH system can provide up to 50% of the cabin’s accommodations for people with special needs, such as senior, handicapped, extra-tall or robust passengers.
All standard modules in B/C and Y/C are 1.83 m. (6’0’’) long, and the design permits for there to be plenty of extra-length modules throughout the cabin; these modules are 1.98mt. (6’5’’) long.

Check out the following link, go to the bottom of the page:

http://www.extratall.co.uk/news_airl...re_legroom.htm

Optimist1125 · 09-07-2003, 12:01 AM

I think you should be congratulated for envisioning something that's ahead of its time.

Money, FAA regs, and probably tradition in the industry would put up servere "change management" issues, but you've probably designed the airline "cabin of the future"... who knows when?

Good stuff and makes great sense conceptually!
--Linda

SleeplessTraveler · 09-07-2003, 06:32 PM

Thank you, Linda.

You're very right, "change management" issues are likely to be the biggest hurdle, but we remain optimistic, as most of the feedback we have received is positive, and if ever the time was right for such a change it is now.

Carlos

10-18-2002, 12:58 AM	#1
SleeplessTraveler Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 5	Fully reclinable seats for all passengers After several sleepless nights aboard planes on intercontinental flights, which gave me some time to think about the lack of space in airplane seats, I came about an idea that could solve this problem. Over the next few years this idea took the form of a conceptual design for passenger cabins that can greatly improve the quality of traveling by plane, providing every passenger with a fully reclining seat and far more freedom to move about. This solution, and the added space that it provides to every traveler, may also help in reducing the number of cases of air rage incidents and travel-related DVT, two conditions that have been in the spotlight recently and that are linked, among other factors, to lack of mobility and to the stress caused by it. I'd like to know what my fellow travelers think of this concept, so if you would like to take a close look at it, I invite you to log on to our new website: www.airbornehotel.com Have a good flight... and a good night! Carlos Martinez-Celis __________________

11-25-2002, 03:13 PM	#2
BuffaloNY Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: BUF, YYZ Posts: 5	Interesting concept, and one that appears to be very comfortable, but safety is compromised. It would simply be too chaotic to evacuate the plane given such a configuration. __________________

08-23-2003, 01:43 PM	#4
SleeplessTraveler Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 5	Pax Capacity 183391: We have several configurations for a specific widebody aircraft (I can't say which) that not only can match its normal seat count, they can increase it by as much as 15%.

09-07-2003, 12:01 AM	#8
Optimist1125 Member ITYT Cabin Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: CLE Posts: 30	Kudos I think you should be congratulated for envisioning something that's ahead of its time. Money, FAA regs, and probably tradition in the industry would put up servere "change management" issues, but you've probably designed the airline "cabin of the future"... who knows when? Good stuff and makes great sense conceptually! --Linda

09-07-2003, 06:32 PM	#9
SleeplessTraveler Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 5	Thank you! Thank you, Linda. You're very right, "change management" issues are likely to be the biggest hurdle, but we remain optimistic, as most of the feedback we have received is positive, and if ever the time was right for such a change it is now. Carlos __________________

12-02-2002, 01:26 AM	#3
183391 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: dfw Posts: 5	Okay the airlines are having enough trouble attempting to sell tickets at dirt cheap prices. Take out half the seats and imagine what your fare would be.

08-25-2003, 03:12 PM	#5
dbaker Senior Member ITYT Captain Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IAH/HOU Posts: 2,354	How are the overhead bins affected?

08-25-2003, 03:17 PM	#6
Nugget Senior Member ITYT Navigator Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 610	I also wonder if the proposed seat design would be feasible for taller passengers. While a present-day airplane seat is uncomfortable for taller passengers, this system would appear to have no possibility for a taller passenger to fit, given the fact that it's entirely enclosed. I'm also unconvinced that a bunk-style system would be workable in an emergency evacuation. The FAQ on the site acknowledges this concern, but fails to provide a meaningful response to that particular issue. I'm also a bit off-put by the misleading wording used on the site where the tone and language are clearly designed to give the impression that this is a production system seeking airframe customers and not just some guy's crazy idea which I suspect it is.

08-25-2003, 09:48 PM	#7
SleeplessTraveler Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 5	dbaker: There are no overhead bins in this design; individual baggage bins are set in front of each passenger. By the way, these bins can offer twice as much space per passenger as compared with conventional overhead bins. Nugget: The ABH system can provide up to 50% of the cabin’s accommodations for people with special needs, such as senior, handicapped, extra-tall or robust passengers. All standard modules in B/C and Y/C are 1.83 m. (6’0’’) long, and the design permits for there to be plenty of extra-length modules throughout the cabin; these modules are 1.98mt. (6’5’’) long. Check out the following link, go to the bottom of the page: http://www.extratall.co.uk/news_airl...re_legroom.htm

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