Pre-departure drinks

dbaker · 06-30-2003, 04:04 PM

Since I'm accustomed to pre-departure drinks on the ground during boarding and taxiing, I was surprised to read Federal Aviation Regulations 135.122a:

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135.122 Stowage of food, beverage,and passenger service equipment during arcraft movement on the surface, takeoff, and landing

a) No certificate holder may move an aircraft on the surface takeoff, or land when any food, beverage, or tableware furnished by the certificate holer is located at any passenger seat.

Thoughts?

Decibel · 06-30-2003, 04:33 PM

My guess is .122 is there for PAX safety, but who knows...

mduell · 06-30-2003, 04:48 PM

What about Part 121? Or 125?

dbaker · 06-30-2003, 04:50 PM

I don't know. Check the FARs. :P

mduell · 06-30-2003, 05:12 PM

A cursory glance doesnt show anything in 121 on the same topic, but this shouldnt effect most of your flights anyway since 135 is commuter and on-demand operations.

Cory6188 · 07-01-2003, 02:08 PM

The FAA rule doesn't contradict what the airlines do with predepature drinks - at least I don't think so with what it says. The rule says that stowage is necessary during aircraft movement on the surface. If the plane is just sitting at the gate, there should be no reason as to why the F/A's couldn't serve drinks.

Cory6188 · 07-01-2003, 02:10 PM

And I was also thinking...don't the F/A's take your cups from you before the aircraft starts to taxi? As far as I can remember (at least on CO), they take all the garbage from the FC cabin before leaving the gate.

johnhagg · 07-04-2003, 05:04 PM

This is a current, but antiquated FAR. Drinks can be served while the aircraft is parked, but most airlines ignore the FAR and bend it by letting their First Class passengers drink even while taxiing.

NWgoldelite · 07-06-2003, 01:36 PM

Cory6188 wrote:

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And I was also thinking...don't the F/A's take your cups from you before the aircraft starts to taxi?

Cory- Drinks are not always collected before departing the gate. I've had many occasions where they were collected while taxiing. I guess this is just some rule that everyone ignores, and is not enforced.

06-30-2003, 04:33 PM	#2
Decibel Junior Member ITYT Cabin Crew Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 29	Landing's always funny until someone loses an eye! My guess is .122 is there for PAX safety, but who knows... __________________

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06-30-2003, 04:48 PM	#3
mduell Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: SBA or PRC Posts: 71	What about Part 121? Or 125?

06-30-2003, 04:50 PM	#4
dbaker Senior Member ITYT Captain Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IAH/HOU Posts: 2,354	I don't know. Check the FARs. :P

06-30-2003, 05:12 PM	#5
mduell Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: SBA or PRC Posts: 71	A cursory glance doesnt show anything in 121 on the same topic, but this shouldnt effect most of your flights anyway since 135 is commuter and on-demand operations.

07-01-2003, 02:08 PM	#6
Cory6188 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Newark Liberty International Airport (EWR) Terminal C Posts: 8	The FAA rule doesn't contradict what the airlines do with predepature drinks - at least I don't think so with what it says. The rule says that stowage is necessary during aircraft movement on the surface. If the plane is just sitting at the gate, there should be no reason as to why the F/A's couldn't serve drinks.

07-01-2003, 02:10 PM	#7
Cory6188 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Newark Liberty International Airport (EWR) Terminal C Posts: 8	And I was also thinking...don't the F/A's take your cups from you before the aircraft starts to taxi? As far as I can remember (at least on CO), they take all the garbage from the FC cabin before leaving the gate.

07-04-2003, 05:04 PM	#8
johnhagg Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: MCI Posts: 3	This is a current, but antiquated FAR. Drinks can be served while the aircraft is parked, but most airlines ignore the FAR and bend it by letting their First Class passengers drink even while taxiing.